Any recent full frontals of his mistresses? Jesus denied he was setting up a kingdom on earth and somehow you insist he was mistaken and that he actually is you have the place, Jerusalem and you have the time period, 1,000 yrs. In searching for that video- I see it was in end November 2013- only 4 1/2 months ago- not graduation..even worse.. Im in good standing with my church and those Im accountable to. None of us are in a position to throw stones, judge, or cast aspersions upon or condemn himonly God can. As New Times revealed in an investigation published Tuesday, former Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale Pastor Bob Coy who once led the largest megachurch in Florida was accused in 2015 of. Bob and family obviously dont want to face any more humiliation. If you never lived together with others then you have never lead Jesus Style and problems will eventually surface when you fail to lead in this way. Give it to God. Unless you are being slanderous libel and defamation of character. One of the many reasons I left. Agreed Michael. I hear bible preaching and teaching being translated into military and sports metaphors all the time. You are an angry man, Lorenzo, and very unattractive to anyone who you are unloading upon. You jump in to the information I gave Mary, with your strong claims and accusations and then back out and say I dont have to answer. LOL. Find a church that could use your contribution of time and talent and let the mega house worry about itself. Who made you Coys torpedo? Stop this! But it appears extramarital affairs may have been one reason. Regardless of what Bob has done, that should not interfere with our relationship with God, we have to stand strong in our faith and love for Him. Bob asked me to remove that message, but, I completely agree. for those of us in the cheap seats, it might be wise to be prayerfully patient & turn the hobby horses out to pasture for a bit. I figure that is why you are now circling your wagon around Coy. daughter, Oh Beacon of Insight Perhaps, if thou deemest it, A Blog to Enlighten the teeming masses in darkness lost, misled, and disillusioned Might See and hear Truth from on High Truth from on Hugh coming straight and unvarnished from He and You. That is Calvary Chapels biggest failure, an arrogant view of the Pastor and his ability to be Jesusand its made worse when the congregants know this and still support a flawed leadership model that is a corrupting force among the Pastors in Calvary Chapel. 3 And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth. 4 They are the two olive trees and the two lampstands, and they stand before the Lord of the earth.[a] 5 If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. All Scripture is self-attesting and being Truth, requires our unreserved submission in all areas of life. His popularity soared. In his later days, he began registering cars that were essentially completely custom fabrications as antique automobiles, avoiding major emissions restrictions and tax liabilities. When you knowingly sin then, post-saved, you are willfully being an enemy of God and we all do it b/c we are all aware of our sin and we sin anyway. I wonder what happened to the 61 million raised. following your convoluted reasoning, a wife should forgive her husband 490+ trysts with the bathsheba of his choice. No, there are 2 parts to this Gods and mans. How long did you stay out of ministry before you came back, what measures did you take to make sure you didnt sin again, does your present congregation know of your adulterous past? Thats the issue. after being a Christian? "When Chuck Smith died, there was nothing left to hold back all the competing factions," church critic Michael Newnham says. (Someone that good with words no doubt uses them as manipulative tools) Trusts broken to this degree can only be restored by years of observing consistently changed and altogether new attitudes and behavior toward Gods people. Flynn, youre like a bull in a china shop. Keep the witchhunt there and find out who on the board insisted the news wait until after services and who wanted immediate notification. To bag on sisters and brothers who are as convinced of their conclusions as you are of yours is ungracious, short-sighted, erodes your credibility, and fosters division in the church. Hugh said, And may your little friends who warm themselves in the fires of scoffing and mockery take heed as well!, You hath better harken to the truth and backeth down thine misplaced anger at the messenger of the Lordyou son of a motherless goat. So he led the people through the Port of New Orleans and up the Mississippi River to St Louis in what began the LCMS. I reacted in context of numerous other people who commented shortly before you who apparently excused Coys behavior or attacked people here for discussing the effects and ramifications of those choices. Unless you will claim that Revelation is not part of the Bible. "I was really hurt. And the evil one must be ecstatic to see this! But Newnham says the pastor still has more to answer for especially because his sources say Coy has been trying to mobilize investors to start a new church. Power and money corrupt, and NO ONE is exempt from the temptation to cross moral lines. The next level of givers got to have a dinner with them with more people, the next level got a buffet dinner> The next got a lunch buffet and then some got nothing. the guilty parties. Coy had forsaken rock 'n' roll for Jesus but then became a rock star anyway. And what about the women who throw themselves at a man saying suggestive things zany wearing provocative clothing with the intent of tempting them? Heres another one of your blind spots, Lorenzo, the ravenous wolves that most of you have become. His family is leaving. Jesus transforms, not a pastor. Im not one to split hairs but The first meeting place for CC was in a funeral home behind Albertsons in FT Lauderdale, now it is true they moved for a bunch of years to Pompano but only with temporary zoning variances off Gateway but were deigned permission to a become permanent church location, therefore they never settled there. Let him be restored to the churchs love. To make my last post clear, the amillennial position is not from God, and the true position, that takes the Bible literally and believes in a literal 1000 year Kingdom when Jesus returns, is the original position that the first believers held. So now answer the question! Anyone can read it and see what was said. The reference is not to Rev 5 But to Isaiah 11, which speaks of the millennium. Im over 40, never married, do not view porn, and am still a virgin and guess what? Amillennialism is for those that refuse to take the Bible literally, and shuck it off as if it just originated in the last 150 years (which is a lie, since all the first believers were against this ghastly false doctrine). This is the church were talking about. High profile and untouchable positions can only lead to catastrophic collapse like this. Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord, I will repay!!! If he was a preacher of grace and not telling me what to do on the radio this might not be so hypocritical. But in 1981, his life changed forever thanks to an epic holiday hangover and his brother Jim, who'd already found religion. So here is one for you. CCFtl was the only Bible based church for miles. Contents show Robert J. They were expecting it. She also acknowledged the forms that made clear her refusal to be kept on a ventilator in the event of a medical emergency. Is there a man here who would NOT do the same. 'Jesus Revolution' leaves out the tough stuff but gets the music right, Sacked chaplain to appeal after losing employment tribunal case. Active Word, a media ministry that distributed Coys Bible teachings on radio, television and digital media outlets, has also been suspended, according to a statement from the churchs board. He has opportunity to confess, repent and turn back to the faith he knows so well. both started their careers in his shop. tim petrovic career earnings what happened to diane coy. In 1997, Coddington was inducted into the Hot Rod Hall of Fame.[11]. And I have a sincere question about him. they were generous givers. (1 Cor. There is a lot more mercy proffered on this blog this weekend regarding this matter than I read last weekend when the subject was the WV matter. Someone needs to tell so many of the poor men with ordinary jobs I have known throughout life who cheated anyways that they were breaking a stereotype. Were prayers publicly offered for Bobs wife and children and the church Bob has hurt so badly or has the church now expunged the record and just moving forward. I have spent years hearing people around me saying, Bob Coy is so funny!, Bob Coy knows how to do church! ad nauseum. or are you just repeating here say? on and on ad nauseum ] The real power wont be shown by succumbing to any of these dangers. Theres also much to say about when they began having auctions at the church. The youth pastor was set up to be the fall guy. Barbara #625. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. -- Give, Connect, Learn --Give | bit.ly/2ZUprZxI'm New | bit.ly/3kvFBAwMessages | bit.ly/3kzDStWUpcoming Events | bit.ly/3jg3N9W Bob, Anons #472 is absolutely true. I am sure a church that size had plenty of people who did not attend last week as they likely miss from time to time. CP reached out to Calvary Chapel for further comment but no response was received by press time. Ok Michael, let me get through the weekend. How is this furthering the kingdom? You made a freshman mistake. I have documentation. LOL. Just tired of picking up the pieces of the wreckage. Too bad Christians dont look beyond a mans reputation to the truth. And bravo to a strong board if they are able to prevent these common pitfalls of a fall. It must and does operate by the same worldly standards as any other corporation. Pastor Bob will be focusing his full attention on his personal relationship with God and with his family. "That changes today. Coddington's creations have won the Grand National Roadster Show's "America's Most Beautiful Roadster (AMBR)" award seven times (the only back-to-back winner of America's Most Beautiful Roadster) and Didnt God provide for this with the whole concubine thing. IMO , there is nothing less Christ like on this planet than fighting for control. Please tell me how could he take communion while screwing someone else the last year..Id like to know when he lost his values, his morals, his honesty..his life is a lie. Why kick a wounded brother in Christ????? 5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins. You have some serious issues. Are we in the (symbolic) millennium 3. do unto others as you would have done to you. Do we expose a fraud or recover a brother? donny, I asked politely. A poor man has the few options left to him when she leaves him with his shame. So, when they said, clean out your desk, he did.. It would be interesting to see how Bob spoke about this topic in his messages. Whether it be true or not we will always love Pastor Bob and Diane. God also allowed me to be able to talk with someone and tell if they were struggling. Interesting and worthy of noting: it was called CC Ft Lauderdale and was never in Ft Lauderdale but Pompano BeachHe was called to Ft. Lauderdale but never ever had a church there. Michael can you confirm the involvement of Bob Barnes as someone who was instrumental in all this coming to light? You never know what youd do if you were in his position.thats like a bum saying hed never do what a rich man would do. At its core, this is not a CC failure or a megachurch failure or a Moses-model failure. Let me answer some of your comments posed as questions: I doubt anyone has any idea where the 103 million was used. NOTHING can take that away ! he dispatches each to their eternal destinies 5.) {S} , , , ; , . BE TRUTHFUL AND HONEST, OR YOULL NEVER EXPERIENCE TRUE HEALING! He even had his own brother stand in front of thousands to apologize.. I agree with Michael, that MacArthur is being grossly misrepresented here. Early life, education and early career. What did we get when we were lied about, shunned by others who were too loyal to even ask what happened to us and raked over the hot coals by him and his leadership? Im sure he sins just like the rest of us. This is not good, and this is what can happen. Secondly the Bible will say adultery or fornication but fornication can include many types of different types of sexual sin, its not pertinent to dwell on the sin itself and bring out every lurid detail of that sin for your viewing pleasure and for you to dwell in. He even had his own brother stand in front of thousands to apologize. Them coy has no grounds to sue you. So you are surely Martin Luthers disciple. He admitted to committing adultery and having an addiction to pornography. He has been instrumental in changing and saving thousands of lives, including my own. We gotta start getting this right. From what I understand, many employed knew something was going down for a long time. But just as a reminder, within that 2000 years is some good, and some very bad. Bob deserves what ever happens to him and has others said that does not include returning to his post as pastor. It went for far less than the first. What was the result of your victimization? It may be at CC it may not, it may be at an organization such as woman in distress, a food bank or missionary etc.. God has a lot of job openings, it may be that your time for a family is coming. At least it is for me. It is the second-largest megachurch in Florida, according to the Hartford Institute for Religion Research. What kind of God would we serve if he chose some at random to go to hell and some to go to heaven. I hope that real love and compassion for his wife & kids are available. http://pompanobeachfl.gov/pages/department_directory/development_services/planning_and_zoning_division/pdfs/maps/city_map.pdf, http://www.city-data.com/zipmaps/Pompano-Beach-Florida.html. If you are indeed saying the truth. I think that would be helpful to know. This website is, usually, dominated by people that hold to one very narrow view of eschatology. Interesting point and something Brodersen/CCCM and Smiths/TWFT are battling overthe IP of Chuck Smith and if his work was his or the property of CCCM. I agree, lets drop the rocks and pray for Pastor Bob and his family. As far as I can see Bob Coy hasnt been allowed to stay in his sin like the WV thing was about last week. My Prayers and heart go to Bob Coy and his family. It was supposed to be raised for a new sanctuary that was to be at the North-East part of the property near the canal and would take up part of the main front parking lot. Andy, I made a couple of comments to Mary! well praying for you. Thanks Michael. Same story with sin throughout the scriptures, with example after example. Thank you for sharing this hard news, Michael. What about the husbands and children of the women you use just for kicks, so you dont get bored? Same with apologies. She spends too much money on collectables and is enamored with movies, comics, and television series. Irenaeus taught dispensationalism in the 2nd century. I speaketh not about Bob Coyeth, but about the living stones that compriseth the church of God, that you and your luciferian minions cannot stand against as His church marcheth triumphant!!! <3. Good point. Barbara, well done. Thats worse than not knowing you are doing wrong. It leaves a lot of multi-sites in the dark. The one who hung on a cross continues to be foolishness to the Greeks and a scandal to the Jews. I wan tho know ow long has he been having affairs Michael, if you have concret evidence that he committed adultery and was addicted to pornography can u provide any other details? Andy, you are Eddie Murphy kind of funny. When a Todd Bently or a Jim Bakker fell it was a totally different reaction for me as I saw them as dangerous men due to their teaching, etc. He wasnt in any shape to give up a kidney anytime soon, so Jake was his best option. Its their soft term for adultery. May you find love and fulfillment with a significant other who will love and accept your world view. They didnt have to. God loves Pastor Bob and so do I. Blessings and peace to you as well, Dusters. Who gets the title? And only because I am entering a different stage of grief which is anger Pastor Chinelly and Pastor Fidel Gomez were both unfaithful to their wives. Money creates a disconnect. Lori, I cant help but remember the hell you went through and how long it lasted. thus becoming co dependent on the pastor for their fresh word rather than studying the word themselves. Am I hearing that part of fundraising project plan involved Bob and his wife putting a price on the biblical practice ( and requirement for elders) of hospitality, charging people to have dinner or lunch with them. I have seen the results of calvinism, on many unwary new believers, it seems these Calvinists have a difficult time preaching the gospel and winning converts after all those that God has chosen are already saved, but these Calvinists have no problem infiltrating the churches and stealing Gods sheep with their vain philosophies based on man, let no one spoil you Paul warned, and this Calvinist preterist teaching is a rotting festering leaven in the body of Christ today! Is there anything you disagree with him upon? Had a phone call and was ready to continue a bit with RiBo but think it best to set it aside as there are tons of people reading now and also per Michaels request @ 166. We were very involved. There is more going on at this church than just this infidelity. When he went back to CCFL by then many family members from another state arrived and had jobs waiting for them at CCFL. You have left the building. 6 They have power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want. God can bring restoration- please Lord, help the Coy family. Revelation is mixed with both things fulfilled and things unfolding. He attended machinist trade school and completed a three-year apprenticeship in machining. This will harden them somewhat but it will pass and they will be better for it. may God give wisdom, grace, and comfort to all those affected. 5. Sin is sin. Decades of life wasted. Coy shocked his flock and made national headlines by walking away from his ministry, selling his house, and divorcing his wife. You chose to join in I did not initiate the conversation. We are so angry at one another so jealous, so accusing. So I would say there is a different parrot on this post and its the parrot that mimics a heretic named John Calvin! The woman got away without a scratch. "We learned of this report after it was disclosed and reported to the appropriate authorities," says Michael Miller, a church spokesman. Lorenzo, Thats, quite honestly, inappropriate, and none of your business. They are being good guardians and deserve no finger pointingjust applause for being brave and having the character to do such a thing. NONE. We all had the church turn its back on us as if we were liars and the pastor had his boardaka henchmen literally try to chase my family out of town to keep us quiet. 8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the basilisks den. As one who lives here in S.FL, there is nothing in the news about this. Its human nature. It was like everyone was in a daze. Man is capable of all sorts of evil even saved 2. And CCFL did issue an article on their blog and they are allowing blog comments so thats much better than in the past with CC issues. The statement went on to say that a team of assistant pastors already on staff will maintain their usual rotating schedule as teaching pastors for all services. He believes the false gospel of lordship salvation which cannot save. After his preaching career ended, he landed work managing the Funky Biscuit, a nightclub in Mizner Park in Boca Raton. Is the devil chained up right now? Explain to me how you could take communion at 3 services and then go bang someone else?? Then non believers wonder why Christians are the only ones to kill their wounded. Power corrupts. Who assigned you the daunting task of picking up the pieces? Do those people have a right to know? Of courseleave it to the Pharisees to fight amongst, not for, themselves. http://derekthornton71.blogspot.com/2014/04/fallen-king-cirian-war-saga-by-eric.html. If the church is to be known by our love for each other, how are we (this blog exchange) any different from those who dont believe in the most fundamental thing we hold together to be true (Him crucified for US- That we are all sinners saved by his shed blood, not by our own works?) How pointing out all these passages that you freely spiritualize help your claim of a literal 1,000 yr earthly reign is beyond me. You have no idea how enamored people are with this man. This year, Calvary has been hit by even more sexual abuse claims. I will remind all in this blog that Jesus said if you look at a woman with lust you have committed adultery in your heart. finding out our churches and pastors had failings and unrepentant sin. I love the nuts. I think thats a YES! Im not too concerned about Bob Coy right now. Hugh. Krent, Why do you express yourself behind screen names? I can only speak for myself, I want that I say to be more important that who I am. They are always the main arrows in the enemy quiver that are fiery darts. A few years back after leaving the church I found some old cassette tapes and his messages were less funny and more serious. The Apostle Peter in Acts 2 at Pentecost states that Christ sitting on Davids throne is a present day event. No, your position has replaced Jesus Christ who is the sum and substance of all prophecy, with the nation state of Israel. The ones with the largest pledge or most generous givers, got a more intimate dinner with DC and BC. Coy is twisting in the wind. {P} , , , - , , , . The church clearly did not think this. And the local newspapers would never write anything negative about him. One adversary is seduction. That may have been accomplished through small home groups, but his magnetism and charisma kept a need for a larger building. That passage is no more teaching dispensationalism than ice hockey rules. [10] I dont care if its Billy Graham, Chuck Smith or John Calvin himself who came back from the dead if they should appear and teach contrary to the word of God, they are to be rejected. Another explosive comment on the other blog about Coy. He may have a scandal brewing with one of his kids, so my little heart cant take this right now. Thats a big deal = Bob chose. Hey , Martin Luthers disciple, You might be better off being a disciple of Jesus ! Wheres the grace?] Against Bobs inability to see the situation clearly and with Spirits lens [Gods gifts and callings are irrevocableI just need to exercise my gift so the peeps can get saved? So although Bob did at one point attempt to put rots in Pompano God had other plans, much like Noah getting swallowed by the great fish after being thrown off a ship and subsequently deposited in the land where God intended him to go. Nobody is perfect. He was ready to give his life to the church. Maybe more need to hear it. Pure speculation on my part. Changes things greatly. There were only a select few who could say anything about anything. How many people attend your church, I want to make sure your crusading vendetta against CC is not born out of jealousy, for a work that God has raised up in these last days and the devil through people like you is attacking incessantly! Lori, thank you for sharing your story. Im still waiting for Super Troopers 2 over here, but will have to check out Goonies 2 as well . Nobody should jugde him he is human NOT god. and may what happened to BarJesus come upon you or worse as a witness from God that you are fighting against him! He will heal it. {} 10 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the root of Jesse, that standeth for an ensign of the peoples, unto him shall the nations seek; and his resting-place shall be glorious. I am telling them to let him recover his heart, name and honor. About half a year later, the victim visited the police department and said she had an "experience with God" and has found forgiveness for Coy. You sound like someone that isnt going to listen and repeat blindly without A deeper understanding, youre exactly what the body needs, I did not come to bring peace, but a sword Jesus. Coy is exposed for his moral situation. That was their choice, not mine. Then, on July 18, police arrested 41-year-old Roshad Thomas, who had spent 13 years as a volunteer youth pastor at Calvary Chapel Tallahassee. And please stop posting scripture with the Hebrew or Greek; its obvious youve studied neither since you cant even keep the tense straight in your run-on sentences. Yes I do. You didnt have the integrity and honesty to answer my question, and now you want me to answer yours! Not to stir strife, but some of us dont agree and wont be comfortable there. That is just ridiculous. Period. Two of my three children still struggle with doubt in their faith and I can not believe our experience didnt have something to do with it. But doctrine doesnt fall into that same category? Apologies are step two. The church has 10 campuses around Florida and has hosted numerous evangelical speakers, including evangelist Billy Graham, author and speaker Joni Eareckson Tada and actor Kirk Cameron. Im not married. The problem has been evident that many raise there pastors up as idols. When we forget that, thats when we abuse the offices entrusted to us, men and women both. No there are not. Please Note wins with best line AND most clever word! I also know 2 large donors retracted their pledges. This is awful. Im sure that everyone understands my need to be as careful and precise as possible. A Calvary Chapel member named Rodger Thomas was arrested that year and charged with repeatedly molesting a 15-year-old girl at a high school run by the church. My step-dad CC pastor did that same thing as well. Antonio. Lorenzo, http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/82410505140/a-2008-study-found-that-women-showed-signs-of, Ohhh, Lorenzo, bad form to shout in all caps. To Andy (#652), Good points. Then go to the board of CCFTL and get it. Coy has had a national ministry, not just one to the local church and his fall is a matter of national news. What I know of Jesus was a reference to this blog in a news report, so I came to read it and all I read are hypocritical wolves tearing at the wounded, self righteous people looking down their noses at others, so if this is Christianity I would rather be with those who are honest and forthright, and theyre not on this blog! Imagine what all those kids at Liberty are thinking now. In fact, the concept of an earthly reign of Christ,of any length of time is foreign to the NT. this certainly is an example of adultery. Bob has helped save thousands with his teaching and we should leave the punishment up to God and pray that he will repent and use this fall to come back stronger than ever. Make your own application. [5] It is acclaimed as one of the great expressions of automotive customization. So this is a serious question. We all know the scriptures and as a previous poster mentioned let he who is without sin cast the first stone, to that I would add, considering ourselves lest we also be tempted!. Miserable, Hugh, You should listen to Michael when he says I did not make Bob Coy have sex with women other than his wife. We wait until we know and can prove what we know, then we report. Zero. Coddington grew up in Rupert, Idaho, reading all the car and hot rod magazines he could, and got his first car (a 1931 Chevrolet truck) at age 13. So engaging with a second person right now, not interested. Some of Coddington's signature innovations were his custom-fabricated alloy wheels, typically machined from a solid aluminum billet, an industry first. Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale spokesman Mike Miller said Monday the church was not commenting beyond its statement. people need to vent, to be angry, to feel betrayed and to weep. Its commanded in Scripture to do so. . You said that the 1,000 yrs had to be taken literally. Lol. I still live Pastor Bob. That is why Mark Davis & Clay heacocks leftthey saw this stuff and said enough is enough!. Mark, are you kidding? Look for your proverbial iron to sharpen your iron. Lorenzo is in great need to know about Jesus from the gospels. What else was I wrong about? Who cares about me now that Im not influential or important?. Thats not being victimized, thats being tempted by women who need healing not exploitation. Join the New Times community and help support It never happened. 10 czerwca 2022 Lorenzo, My lying mouth? Daughter And as you look at these Pastors, one used to run the cafeteria (Did he have any biblical education to become a Pastor)?, one is BCs brother in law, and one is his nieces husband. In fact, the church had been battling accusations nationwide for years that it empowered predatory pastors while demanding little accountability. When he made them laugh he had them. "When Pastor Bob left, people definitely left too because they wanted to follow him or because they were just hurt," says Healy, the longtime church member. (Judge Bailey didn't respond to messages from New Times to comment on this story.). As opposed to Scotts comment I appreciate your candidness:). If he keeps looking at us, Jesus followers, he will be disappointed because were all unfinished art projects. He must be sighing in disappointment. "We need answers.". Baptized ! Will they be allowed? That seems to say that if you are have no power and authority then you wont cheat. The children at the school were told that DC and the family is in California.